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Legal blogger on Gordon, Boris and JiabaoPosted by Alice Xin Liu, February 6, 2009 7:17 PM
Chinese legal blog Athens' Lyceum (雅典学园) was established in December 2005 and their mission, according to the website, is to provide a free and unlimited platform for lovers of legal analysis and students as well as practitioners of the law. The blog is similar to the closed-down Fatianxia, and can only be read after joining the site (which requests the submission of an application). One article is a response to the recent incident in Cambridge, where a shoe was thrown at Premier Wen Jiabao. It appeared that the author, Chen Taihe (陈泰和), was in Britain at the time of the incident. His impressions of British political leaders, garnered from what appears to be mostly British television, jarred slightly with his understanding about the Chinese leadership. Here is a partial translation: Thoughts after shoe was thrown at Wen Jiabao during Cambridge lectureby Chen TaihePremier Wen gave a speech at Cambridge University, but there was shoe-throwing protest, which was immediately associated with the shoe-throwing attack made on George W. Bush by an Iraqi journalist. This kind of thing happens very frequently in Western countries, especially Britain and America. Brown is often mocked in Britain. I am currently in Britain, and talking with British friends. When we talk about Gordon Brown, these friends will make fun of him, and imitate his mumbling speech. But, on the television screen Premier Wen seemed completely unable to understand what had happened. From his stunned expression, we can see that he was trying to hide his anger whilst acting calm. Chinese political leaders are not so used to this kind of awkward situation. This makes one think of other people in China, who all care about ‘face’. In Britain, the main brains of the government are the main targets for people’s derision. It's a worldview of democracy. When Gordon Brown talked about economic plans that the government would introduce to save Britain’s economy, the leader of the Conservative Party kept saying the opposite thing. Also, in parliament, all the members seemed to be booing Brown. Brown’s oratory skills also seemed to be worse than the leader of the Conservative Party, and when he is nervous he stutters, which seems to tickle the British people. British TV has a “Parliament" channel, and everyday it shows debates in parliament. As soon as Brown talks, everyone begins to laugh: this kind of thing seems to happen a lot. The London Mayor [Boris Johnson] is even funnier, when he is in parliament, a female politician asks him a question. This fellow persistently gives muddled answers, and when somebody asks him again, he answers before the other has finished. And he does not answer what the question asks. When the question requires a yes or no, he just blathers on. The other person protests and say that they want a yes or no, but he doesn’t even pay them any attention, and continues to blather on. And they show this all on TV, live. People have been protesting throughout Premier Wen’s visit to London, especially pro-Tibetan independence demonstrators. Now he has also suffered a shoe-attack. It’s OK though, as according to reports the shoe-thrower was not very skilled and the shoe landed more than one meter away from the Premier. After seeing the BBC’s report, Yahoo also reported on it, so I wanted to see if China will report on it. In the end Sohu, Sina, People’s Net all didn't, but chose to report on macroscopic topics, for example: “Video: Wen Jiabao gives a talk at Cambridge University” and “Special Topic: Interview with the Financial Times” and “Wen Jiabao: Europe Visit Successful, China and Britain Declare Collaboration to Work Through the Financial Crisis.” In actual fact, this kind of report shows the gap in the Chinese news, the Chinese leaders’ understanding, the Party and the government’s reactions with international [standards]. This kind of ‘choosing what to report’ is, as we see it, reporting only the positive side to the leaders, whilst not damaging their ‘face’. But in reality, from an international point of view, the news is skewed and unfair. I remember when many leaders of different countries refused to shake hands with the then President George W. Bush at the G20 Summit in November 2008. On British TV they highlighted this and showed Bush as a loner: people would not shake his hand. We can see that in comparison China really has no need to choose what to broadcast and what not to. Justin at Son of Shenzhen Zen's blog wrote recently about his assignment at a state-run English newspaper start-up. They also covered the shoe-throwing (or didn't):
It appears that, at time of writing, both Xinhua and China Daily are at least now calling it a shoe-throwing incident, rather than reporting it as a "disruption" without specific mentioning of footwear. ![]() From Xinhua ![]() From China Daily Links and Sources
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Comments on Legal blogger on Gordon, Boris and Jiabao
Some good points but this kind of thing was not "common" among Western leaders until very recently..
Chen's post not right, shoe-attack news broadcast in the same day(BJ time),but Wen's calm or anger not means he never go through the scene.
that's all~
china has a long history of failing to understand how it appears in the eyes of the world at large.
china's almost maniacal obsession with sanitizing the nation's and its leaders' "face" utterly destroys their credibility.
this, itself, is the single-most damaging affront imaginable to the leadership's "face."
britain's spectacle of parliamentarian assault, by contrast, actually reinforces the leadership's mandate.
"If that's the worst Brown's opponents can say of him;" one might think, "if they can say it to his face in public and if, at the end of the day, he remains standing, then what basis do we have to demand that he step down?"
neither the chinese approach nor the anglo-american approach to civics is ipso facto superior.
but, while england and the u.s. may be faulted for not caring what the world at large thinks of their respective policies, china's history since the mid-19th century has borne forth time and again the proposition that the country simply fails to understand what the world thinks of it.
this failure comes largely from the chinese leadership's historical preference for stifling free expression of public opinion in the interests of forestalling "social unrest."
also, a bonus punctuation tip: traditional practice requires that "Athens'" take an "apostrophe-S" because the word, though ending in "S", does not end in a pluralizing "S".
China is a state of ceremonies country. In this country you impossible watch anyone shoe-throwing to other Premier country's. Everyone to respect his guests and very hospitality.
This is difference culture has difference country.
"but, while england and the u.s. may be faulted for not caring what the world at large thinks of their respective policies, china's history since the mid-19th century has borne forth time and again the proposition that the country simply fails to understand what the world thinks of it."
You are correct that the Chinese failed to "understand how it appears in the eyes of the world at large." But don't you think one of China's problems is that they are obsessed with caring about how the rest of the world think about them? They should take a page from the US and other western countries in terms of not giving a damn to what the rest of the world says about them.
I think, this is not the democracy, this is lack of education, no family education and no school education. Shame on his parents and his teachers, too.
Chinese are taught to respect others, especially the guests.
Wen Jiabao asked the Cambridage University not to dimiss this out-of-mind German student; this is also part of Chinese culture - tolerance.
"tolerance" is part of Chinese culture? Zhende?
Response to comment from Juliette.
Why our Chinese people did not respect each other in the 1950's and 60's . We killed so many our own people. Forgot history? Japanese are not the only people like to change/erase history!!
"Chinese are taught to respect others, especially the guests."
Anti-Japanese riots in 2005?
There is a clear difference between mocking a political leader in informal circumstances and disrupting a public event. There is also a clear difference from mocking a country's own leader and trying to humiliate a foreign leader. The fact that Chinese leaders does not get criticized enough does not give other people the right to humiliate them in any circumstances. The author hints that Chinese leaders should expect humiliation in public event which is absurd. They should expect criticism, which I believe Mr. Wen did.