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Western racism?

Another piece of user generated propaganda: this PowerPoint style video is titled 'Age old Western racism towards Chinese people lives on'.

There is a very similar video on Youtube here.

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already on danwei I believe, in the goons and thugs post.

I thought it was a piece of crap but seeing bruce lee at the end of the clip above has changed my mind. Damn those evil racists.

HAHAHA....

in the 'ads by Google' above the Youtube clip there is an ad for Outcall Massage Beijing 'with or without strip hairemoval'. Will the 'masseuse' have had some hair removed, or is it that the masseuse will strip some hair from the client?

wasn't the phrase "sick man of Asia," as applied to China, coined by Japan in the pre-War era?

Labeling this as propaganda may be a bit extreme, don't you think? Aside for the Chinese at the end (which I believe traditionally refers to the Japanese), it does lay out some general points worth of some consideration. Of course, not all points are entirely accurate, but they're generally worth mentioning to a lot of self-righteous, ignorant Westerners.

One thing that consistently annoys me is the failure for many Chinese to frame this issue as the West not understanding the Chinese. As true as that is, the opposite is true too: many Chinese don't understand the West. There's no call for mutual understanding, only that "others" understand the Chinese. Furthermore, it doesn't help that the Chinese (and the government in particular) too often demand that "others" either accept the Chinese perspective or butt out because it is suddenly "an internal issue" when they don't. How convenient, right? How do some Chinese expect "understanding" when there's no sincere effort to communicate or reciprocate?

Kai:

The Chinese xuanchuan 宣传 is more neutral than 'propaganda' which since the Second World War has had very negative connotations in English.

But to me, propaganda is media whose primary purpose is to convince people of a political point of view. I think this video fits that definition.

I happen to agree with some of the points of view in the video. But it's still propaganda.

I loved it... We are so one sided in Europ and the rest of the occidental world. When it is about philosophy and points of views, we never look at it from other peoples way... I aggreed totaly with what was said... Except about the occupation of Tibet...

But can be sure that this is manufactured by your garden variety user? A bit too slick for me anyway.

wasn't the phrase "sick man of Asia," as applied to China, coined by Japan in the pre-War era?

It said "Sick man of East Asia" appeared in 1936. In this year, China took part in XI Olympic, with a team of 140 people, and got nothing. When they return passing Singapore, the local newspaper describe Chinese as "Sick man of East Asia".

But when watching Huo Yuanjia (霍元甲), you see "Sick man of East Asia". Huo Yuanjia died in 1910.

Another story is a British wrote an article about China in 1896, Liang Qicao (梁启超) translated it into Chinese, using phrase "东方病夫" (Sick man of East). This phrases was widely used later.

See http://lab.zhuaxia.com/item/680125790/?logId=619
for reference.

Why is there a picture of Bruce Lee's statue at the end of the video?

Bruce Lee is American!
He was born in San Francisco.

Most people in the mainland although they might live in a big city like Beijing don't call themselves "Beijing Ren" if they were born elsewhere. They refer to themselves as their place of birth.

So my friends, Bruce Lee is therefore a Laowai.

Let's be real-- Politicians gets brownie points for being racist. In China, they unify the country by accusing Tibetans and Westerners of destroying the country. In the US, they blame China for all the ills of the US economy.

Everyone is trying to get re-elected, so you can almost guarantee the politics is going to be racist and simplistic.

On the other hand, Americans have lost all credibility on the world stage to criticize anybody bc of Iraq. Americans are also the most racist people on earth-- because they actually invite different races to the country with the promise of equality-- then they learn they will always be second class citizens.

China has never promised equality to races. China has also never liked nor asked for foreigners to naturalize in China.

To me, at least China is honest about their racism. The US is biggest bait-and-switch artist-- and, it'll catch up with them soon. Whether it's poor arabs or it's poor blacks or mexicans or asians-- somebody will come to collect from the US. What comes around, goes around. Thank goodness for Justice!

I just thought I'd point out that Bruce Lee was a quarter German. His mother was half-Chinese and half-German.

It takes a real Bruce Lee fan to notice he was an American, born in America.

But that American couldn't get a decent role in Hollywood with his Chinese face, so he had to move to Hong Kong to make his name.

Americans immediately noticed Bruce was Chinese, Chinese people immediately identified with him and took him as our own.

Bruce had no choice, no option, he had to be Chinese. And he's proud of it.

Even today, how many people know Bruce Lee was American? or even think of him as American?


Is this video blocked elsewhere now? I can't watch it or visit its Youtube page in Shenzhen.

How strange that my last comment was not published? When it was written with polite and good English in contrary to many others that were published...

My first test of unfair censorship in China is it?

Kai,

I agree that a lot of Chinese don't understand the west. But the difference is, the Chinese don't pretend that they do. They don't pick on the west simply because the west is different from China. The Chinese do not seek to impose their will, their values etc. on the west. Do you see the Chinese lecturing the west about how they should run their own countries?

The west sess China as an enemy because:

(1) China is a non-caucasian, non-western, non-Judeo-Christian (clash of civilizations).

(2) China is a so-called "communist country" (ideology).

(3) China is powerful enough to challenge western interests and dominance (diverging interests).

Had China been a small, weak country it would not have irrated the west this much.

To Kai,
I appreciate your balanced view but I don't really agree with the argument you've developed in the second paragraph.

What I want to say is that contrary to what you're saying, CHINA has been learning from the west for almost 30 years. Ever since Deng Xiaoping transformed the command economy to a mixed economy, China has been embracing many things of the West from your fast food, video games, TV-series to your literature and political theories.

What you might not know is that China has the highest percentage of post-secondary students seeking educations abroad in the World.

What you might not know is that the best-selling books recently in Beijing is MEDITATIONS by Marcus Aurelius, the European philosopher.

While you might also not know, that the GDP per capita in China after PPP(purchasing power parity) adjustment is 5700 US dollars, not like what the CNN has mentioned as one dollar a day.

China is embracing the world, we people are ready, the olympic games would be a great opportunity, as what you've argued, a place for mutual understanding. Hah, we leaned our olive branch to you, but who is advocating to boycott the 2008 Beijing Olympics? It's the WESTERN MEDIA, "there's no call for mutual understanding"? NONONO. It is the western media, who is NOT prepared to understand China. We Chinese people already knows some, and is ready to understand more about you, about the west.

Secondly, you argued that the Tibet problem is not an internal affair, how I wish you supported that with some concrete evidences or arguments.

Here's some basic factual information about Tibet:
1, Tibet has been a part of China sice Yuan Dynasty, AD 1279.
2, Tibet used to have a system of serfdom and slavery where only 2 percent of nobles and priest can go to school.
3, Dalai Lama was still the vice president of Tibet when the PRC was founded, it is not until he masterpieced the independence that the Chinese government intervened.

Please ask yourself why it is not an internal issue.

China has not only promises its equality to all races, but has actually gave ethnical minorities many privileges during National Examination, Jobs, and etc.

China has 1.4 billion of people. Naturalization? Use your logic, if your country has this many people, would you call your gov't to allow naturalization?

You do not deserve my criticize, because you don't even have enough factual knowledge.

Shame on you!

"But that American couldn't get a decent role in Hollywood with his Chinese face, so he had to move to Hong Kong to make his name.

Bruce had no choice, no option, he had to be Chinese. And he's proud of it."---THUG AND GOON

Bruce was in his first film as an infant and his first film in Hong Kong when he was 8...that is something he had no choice, no option in my friend.

You say he "had to be Chinese" because he went to Hong Kong? Hong Kong at that time wasn't China's. Hong Kong during Bruce Lee's years in Hong Kong was British. Bruce Lee is an American. If he had been born in China he would not of had the opportunities he had had he been born in China. China is a wasteland of talented people's dreams. Only in American could Bruce Lee become so great. He is certainly proud of this seeing as in most of his films he vilifies the traditions of Chinese culture and detroys this perception of China as a great place it seems ironic that you think he is in anyway proud of China. Plus he is buried in Seattle. Even after death he prefers to be buried in a tolerable, free place, that really respects him. China just uses him for commercial purposes like some fast food venture bareing his likeness.

Things like this video and other responses in the Chinese blogosphere show is that Chinese people fundamentally don't understand is that there many many different groups and viewpoints in the western world. It's not like China where the official media has only one perspective on the world.

China's industrialization has made many westerners rich and happy, while at the same time pissing off environmentalists. The one child policy has pissed off people who believe that having kids is a human right, and made a lot of other people happy.

Whatever you'll do in any country will piss off a group of people. The people of the world can't come together especially for China just to avoid hurting their feelings.

I personally believe that this all stems from the massive inferiority complex many Chinese have. China has to wake up and realize it's a pretty decent country. Then it can admit its shortcomings and not get so ridiculously defensive all the time.

Strat,

Having many different groups (with different agenda etc.) does not explain the fact that the west (at the government level) has been considering China an enemy for those reasons that I mentioned above.

What bothers me is the self-righteous Westerners' failure to examine themselves in the same light.

Yes, China has a shaky record on human rights,but the West, particularly the US, has a human rights record that has created suffering around the world.

Western Reaction to Tibet Unrest Reveals Widespread Hypocrisy.

Just months before the opening of the Beijing Olympics, China now faces a grave situation in Tibet.

In Lhasa, the capital of Tibet, weeklong peaceful demonstrations for Tibet's autonomy turned into deadly riots Friday. The rioters now hold an area of the city, surrounded by government forces.

With biased reporting from the media and common misconceptions of the China-Tibet relationship, many Westerners are quick to condemn China and its human rights record, and the call to boycott the summer Olympics is renewed.

The demonstrators question China's historical claim over Tibet, a topic that arguments can be made for both sides.

While Tibet has enjoyed prolonged periods of practical autonomy in the past, beginning in the 13th century, Chinese dynasties from Yuan to Qing had always claimed it within their borders.

In other words, while China's claim over Tibet may not be absolute, it is infinitely more legitimate than the United States' claims over Texas, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Those who chant the "free Tibet" slogan must understand that for all practical considerations, Beijing can't allow Tibet to split from the central government.

Strategically, Tibet, with its vastness and geographical obstacles, serves as an important buffer region against India.

Taking Tibet out of China's grasp would leave the rich and populous province of Sichuan and the inner provinces exposed and vulnerable.

More importantly, Tibet is not the only region in China calling for its independence:

Muslim separatists in Xinjiang province and the island of Taiwan are paying close attention to how Beijing handles the Tibet situation.

Granting it independence, or even showing any signs of weakness, will set a dangerous precedent and encourage other separatist movements in the country.

While I am deeply worried about the situation in Tibet, I remain optimistic that it will be resolved with minimal bloodshed. After the Tiananmen Square incident in 1989, Beijing knows better than to repeat history in Lhasa.

As for those who fear an ethnic cleansing following the riots, they should ask themselves: What do you know about the China-Tibet relationship?

China's treatment of Tibet suggests the exact opposite. In the past two decades, it has invested heavily in Tibet without consideration of economic returns.

Huge sums were spent in improving the region's transportation - including building a railroad that connects Tibet to the rest of the country, diversifying its economy and providing free education to Tibetans.

What bothers me more is the self-righteous Westerners' failure to examine themselves in the same light.

The real problem is not western.

From China's media
http://english.people.com.cn/english/200001/26/eng20000126N138.html
Not from China's media
http://angrychineseblogger.blog-city.com/5000_years_of_misrepresented_history_east_asia_tells_china_to_put_its_house_in_order.htm
History books in China
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060126_1.htm
Insecure China Is Stoking Xenophobic Nationalism
http://www.iht.com/articles/1999/05/15/eddavid.2.t.php
Where’s Mao? Chinese Revise History Books
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/01/world/asia/01china.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Is Tibet entitled to self-determination? Harris, Paul, S.C. 夏博義 資深大律師
http://www.webb-site.com/articles/tibetharris.htm

Simplistic analysis aiming at generating sympathy and outrage against the 'west

For more on asian racism goto www.asianracism.blogspot.com

What bothers me most about this is the use of the word "you". I know it sounds silly but it shows the level of racism and resentment against caucasians as a race. "you" stole, "you" robbed, "you" called us, etc...
I didn't do anything to anybody, but for the person who made this video and all those who agree with it, I am the "you" that did all those terrible things because I have a white face. It's a disgusting attitude.

"What bothers me most about this is the use of the word "you". "---ANONYMOUS(above)

Like Minor Threat said, "Guilty of being white". In addition I am also guilty of being American, Catholic, and having testicles and not fancying other men's said testicles. So because I am cadaver pale, dig chicks---refer to women as "chicks", dig Jesus, and don't crave chocolate every month when my Aunt Flo visits I am public enemy #1.

Yes, it sucks but this is the world we live in currently. Slavery was "a hundred years before I was born" as the aforementioned song says. The word Catholic means "worldwide" or "all welcoming". What other religion allows this? My mother is not Jewish so I can never truly be Jewish. There is no desire to join Islam because they would probably kill me anyway since I'm a proud Yank. I was born cursed because I really love boobies, so clearly I can never dress accordingly and don't know how to decorate my house. It's assumed I can't dance or play basketball but yet I sink 3s all day long. My dancing does suck though.

Point is, if like this video people want to continue highlighting all of our differences in an attempt to level the playing field---when in reality all they hope to do is kill us and take over for themselves---then they certainly should allow us the equal chance to highlight the same differences if and when they back us into the corner and force us to defend ourselves.

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