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Sex and Shanghai a hoax?Posted by Jeremy Goldkorn on Thursday, August 31, 2006 at 9:33 PM
Christopher Bodeen of the Associated Press filed a report about Sex and Shanghai, the Internet scandal du jour: the blog of a philandering English teacher in Shanghai. Excerpt: [A] person responding to an e-mail to a contact address on the site said the authors were a group of performance artists who had fabricated its content as an investigation into online vigilante behavior. If Chinabounder is not a hoax, this explanation is a wise PR move by Mr Sexpat. But if Chinabounder really is a group of performance artists, they have committed an extraordinary act of e gao (恶搞 - spoofing / satire) on the angry professor behind the campaign to out and oust the blogger. UPDATE: Shanghaiist has the latest information on the Bounder hunt. Links and Sources
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Comments on Sex and Shanghai a hoax?
This is quite funny:
A comment at http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/ mentions two websites: http://whoisouttingchinabounder.blogspot.com/ (which works) and http://whoisouttingthechinabounderouter.blogspot.com/ (which doesn't).
What's more, there seems to be a http://chinabounderess.blogspot.com/
Hoax or not, I found that site terminally dull.
I don't believe in this report. since the writing from CB is very consistent, I still think it comes from only one person.
My big question would be,if they wanted to use the blog as a study of the Chinese mob mentality, why would they make it a BLOGSPOT blog, since they were banned in China until just a few weeks ago? It's only due to that fluke - the lifting of the Blogspot ban - that this got the attention of the Chinese public. Something doesn't hold up here....
This is so not a Hoax.
The guy is scared. :)
I would agree it's not a hoax. I suspect the guy is nervous as hell right now. I'm not very sympathetic; he kind of asked for it. But being familiar with his site and all the time he put into it and the obvious consistency of the writing style I'd have to conclude this was not a hoax and certainly not a group effort.
I don't intend to spam you with links, but nevertheless - there's a blog at http://chinabounderinchinese.blogspot.com/ which has set translating Chinabounder's posts into Chinese as it's goal.
If it does turn out to be a hoax, I just want everyone to know I called it first: www.princeroy.org/?p=403#comment-1596.
It's obviously not a hoax, despite what anyone "called." It's likely disinformation being spread by Chinabounder. If it really were a hoax the blog would still be up right now and posts would continue. The events that have unfolded are consistent with someone on the run or trying to lay low while spreading disinformation. Chinabounder actually being "a bunch of performing artists" that included a Chinese male?! Extraordinarily unlikely that someone would be into self-race/gender hating and self-deprecation.
The chasers must have gotten close. Maybe his name really is XXXXX XXXXX or XXXXX or whatever.
[EDITOR'S NOTE (JG): Names changed to XXXs]
EDITOR'S NOTE (JG): This comment was trying to say the Chinabounder is reaping what he sowed, but it was written in filthy, grammatically incorrect English so has been paraphrased.
When I first read that Chinabounder was supposed to be some sort of artistic activity I thought it made sense. I had been discussing performance art a few days back so in a way I was in the subject.
But - generally speaking -since performance art is about interacting with your audience (which isn’t exactly an audience as such), Chinabounder would be rather useless. If it was about discovering people’s reactions, investigating online vigilante behavior and so on, why would he/them create a blog on Blogger which at that time was inaccessible from China (as it was mentioned in online comments over, and over again)? Was it the artists’ intention to limit their audience to the English speaking people with Blogger access? If so, the excuse as provided in the media makes little sense – the stories wouldn’t shock anyone.
Also – why would the creator(s) close the blog, and what would they do, if the Blogger Beta ‘blog is open to invited readers only’ function hadn’t been introduced earlier this month?
Besides, if you were an artist who’s project got out of hand, why not keep the blog opened and write an apology/project description in your last post?
As for the number of Chinabounder bloggers – if you google Chinabounder you’ll notice that he’s been commenting on some forums/blogs. If there were more people wouldn’t there be more comments (if commenting was supposed to be a way of promoting the site)?
Anyway, if I’m not wrong, the professor is said to have discovered the IPs from which Chinabounder was supposed to update his log. Could someone explain how? I suppose he’d have to contact Blogger.com.
it wasn't a hoax. two reasons:
1. why hoax with a website that was until very recently banned in China? talk about misjudging the audience; you would have to find them first.
2. the innane and tedious postings are a perfect example of a self absorbed ego-heavy blog. god knows china is full of them. I can't belive that a group of individuals with aspirations to be artists could ever be that mundane, either by accident or by design.
the bounder is on the run. things got a little too hot. his job and perhaps his legal status was at risk. should he keep blogging just to prove a point. no he accepts defeat, licks his wounds and gets on with life.
http://news.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=news&MsgID=305476
The AP report is dissected.
While I believe the dissection is rather radical, I have to say the AP reported is very uncritical, regarding the claim of hoax and also the identity of 'chinabounderess'. For any sane reader chinabounderess is very likely not what he/she claims to be.
just looked at chinaboundress. as the most sexual thing she appears to have done so far is to have eye contact with a guy in Starbucks, I think she can be dismissed as a johnny come lately bandwagon jumper.
我觉得一些外国人确实脑子有问题
I am sorry I did not have the opportunity to read this much discussed Blog before its removal. Apparently, from what I can read, it MAY have been a hoax with intents unknown. Perhaps this was not a hoax. Regardless, it has apparently opened the floodgates of discussion on culture, racism, sexuality in China, etc. For these reasons only, it may be a good thing.
Dialogue here, or any forum, on matters of sexuality, politics, religion, the environment, human rights, cultures, etc. can only be a good thing. All people’s opinion has some merit.
I am an American planning to teach at a renown University in Shanghai in 2007. I hope to be able to, in some small way, help further alleviate the still present xenophobia that still exists in China. Before I am attacked, let me say this.
Socially China is about 30 years behind the USA, but trying So hard to close this gap. For decades, until the 1980’s, American white males were intimidated of the myth of the black man’s sexual endowment and prowess. Then they began to realize the myth was false and USA women, Asian women and women worldwide were less interested in myths than in a mans ability to commit to a long-term loving relationship, fidelity and his ability to provide for her and any children.
No country “owns” their native women. I suggest if any Chinese men feel intimidated or threatened by foreigners that they first stop, take a deep breath or two, and take a look at themselves and their peers. Maybe they should do extensive readings and research on Internet website and Blogs to read what their Chinese Sisters write about concerning their attitudes towards Chinese men. Take a hard look. Maybe you will not feel good, flattered, feel you have lost “Face”, etc. However, I submit, continuing to be in a state of denial will not solve any problems.
The Chinese male must understand their days as “The King, Emperor”, “Ruler of the Roost”, etc. are over in China. Chinese women are sexually liberated, a growing fixture in the workplace and not a second class sex to be kept at home when the man feels like playing with her. They have feelings, needs, choices and free to act on them.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone’s senses, feelings, etc. The fact remains, the subject of so much controversy was probably a hoax. If not, at very least it should evoke some serious thought and introspect.