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I don't watch CCTV

Here's a song from a Chinese punk band that provides some welcome perspective to all the angsting about nationalistic Chinese youth and CNN: I don't watch CCTV by Beijing-based band Defy.

A sample of the lyrics (sung in English):

I don't watch CCTV

I don't watch this fucking channel...

... Ai, I don't like you...

... CCTV, CCTV, CCTV

Fucking channel

Fucking channel

Defy's MySpace page is here, their Douban page is here, and their home page on Chinese creative social networking site Neocha.com is here.

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Comments on I don't watch CCTV

Finally a group with a pair of nuts---balls if you prefer.

Awesome - they sing with a Beijing accent!

yeah,I don't like watch chinese state tv

i personally think such chinese punk bands are immature and stupid.

Hm, how does that provide perspective ? Most of the anti-CNN crowd don't really like CCTV either...

You're right: the 5% of the the 1.3 billion who don't watch CCTV do provide needed perspective. They definitely counter the 95% who watch it and say that it is horrible and full of shit in the _abstract_, while agreeing with every word of it on almost any _particular_ issue.

Make a list of particular issues -- any you want. Then ask people for their views on those issues. Finally, compare their views on those particular issues with the standard line spouted by CCTV. I'd guess you'd see about 90% convergence. Then ask the person you're interviewing if they think CCTV is horrible, awful, and ridiculous. They'll say "yes" without a hint of irony.

The 3% of the 1.3 billion who use proxies and read news in English also prove that censorship doesn't really work in China...or something.

90% of statistics quoted on internet comment pages are fictional. 3% are possibly correct, while 18% are definitely correct !


It's not at all patronizing to assume that 95% of people who watch it would say it is horrible and agree with everything it says.

of course when CCTV states vague nationalist sentiments most Chinese will have similar views.

as we know,china is a traditional country ,the cctv ,which is being charged by the official,should be responsible to the whole country in order to pursue a peacefull society.Though the time is always changing and information is also updating.TO closely follow the step of changing ,they need time and many decision .the punk must know they also have some duty to give advices ,not do such immature and stupid things.

I seldom watch TV.

far out i can't make out any of the lyrics...except for like "fucking channel"...it's in english but sounds like chinese.

but yeah cool beat

I don't like fucking CNN.
But I like fuck CNN.
Do you know what the CNN meaning in Chiness?
It's fuck you Gram mother.

i watch CCTV via SinoVision on NYC TV Channel 73. it sucks.

how pissed would the anti-CNN crowd be if they knew that their tax dollars were being used to subsidize the broadcasting of CNN to "foreigners" in Beijing?

now that'd be something to sing about, no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVGwvz_NJRk

LOL

Make a list of particular issues -- any you want. Then ask people for their views on those issues. Finally, compare their views on those particular issues with the standard line spouted by CCTV. I'd guess you'd see about 90% convergence. Then ask the person you're interviewing if they think CCTV is horrible, awful, and ridiculous. They'll say "yes" without a hint of irony.

What you basically have is a situation where the majority of people admit that CCTV and the rest of the Chinese media is limited in what it can say and must stick to a line which is often at variance with the truth, but it is the only source of information. They either must admit that what they know is actually potentially untrue or simply act on this information even though they may doubt the source. The vast majority of Chinese people cannot read the original stories carried on CNN, BBC, RIA Novosti,Times of India , AFP, NHK, Al-Jazeera any other foreign media source. Those that can are rather given to simply picking out parts they feel critical of China - check anti-CNN.com, half the stories they cite as 'biased reporting' are actually the western media quoting Tibetan sources in the same story as they quote Chinese government officials. In fact, as can be seen by perusing the pages of Danwei, the Chinese media often carries western reportage with the sections containing Tibetan/Taiwanese/Pro-democracy counterbalance simply edited out.

If you ask a Chinese person whether the Taiwanese wish to come back to China I'll give you better than 50/50 odds that they will say 'yes', but if you ask them whether they believe a story like this one they will probably say 'no'. In fact even those Chinese who have had no contact with Taiwanese are unlikely to believe in an anti-independence demonstration in Taiwan that is attended by tens of thousands of people. Of course, I have the advantage of being very good friends with a journalist who was actually at the demonstration, which was actually a huge PRO independence rally, with a small KMT organised counter-rally numbering no more than three hundred mostly elderly protesters. If mainland Chinese could read the KMT-leaning Taiwanese press they would have learned the same thing - but mainland Chinese are blocked from doing so.

The fact that Chinese media often completely fabricates stories for political reasons is something known to most Chinese. That this makes most of what they think they know about the world outside China quite dubious is something a lot of them cannot and will not face.

I do not think the recent Chinese nationalistics activities was aroused by CCTV, in fact, all these activities were stired by you fools!

You've hurt my feelings. I am canceling my subscription. I will boycott you now.

FOARP said: "The vast majority of Chinese people cannot read the original stories carried on CNN, BBC, RIA Novosti,Times of India , AFP, NHK, Al-Jazeera any other foreign media source."

Many sites like BBC do have a Chinese language version for Chinese people. And then there are sites from Taiwan and HK.

When I was in China, everyone I asked (strangers at internet cafes) knew how to bypass the great firewall. How else would they look at porn?

Chinese youths get a kick out of looking at anything forbidden/illegal. Hence the popularity of sites like BBC. I think the only people truly restricted from accessing forbidden material would be the grandparents.

Anyone watched American news lately? That crap on Fox or the same boring, shallow reports on CNN. Local news (the ambulance chasers). The editorials that come out of nowhere, commentary by this Bozo or that. An intelligent person would recognize that US news is garbage, not real journalism. But they would probably feel it's normal. At any rate, most of us wouldn't agree that there's anything false about it, as bad as it is.
I think that if we stop and think about Western News objectively, then we will realise that there is VERY LITTLE good reporting anywhere in the world.

"When I was in China, everyone I asked (strangers at internet cafes) knew how to bypass the great firewall. How else would they look at porn?

Chinese youths get a kick out of looking at anything forbidden/illegal. Hence the popularity of sites like BBC. I think the only people truly restricted from accessing forbidden material would be the grandparents."

The majority of people I know know, but don't do it because it is illegal - at least theoretically you have to give your ID number when you go online in an internet cafe and this can be used to track you, but this almost never happens. As for porn sites, most of these are not blocked. At any rate, free media and open discussion is not allowed on television, radio, or in the newspapers - and people forget that people with internet access only make up less than a quarter of China's population.

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