I hope they kick Google out of China so netizens can finally revolt.

How come no one mentioned the filthy hand of Baidu? You know, the shady profiteering portal that pretends to be a search engine?

It's funny that Baidu, who has been plagued by scandals like covering up online criticisms of some companies and blackmailing others, was not even mentioned by CCTV. Among Baidu's many strengths is its acknowledged excellence and leadership in referring visitors to penile enhancement and "private syphilis experts".

Well, Baidu is used a lot more than Google, but there's no mention of that from the government's side: but if you look at the Kenengba post we linked to then the comparison is there. And if you believe the theory that they're after Google because of the fact that they help users "share information", then it suddenly seems a lot less funny.

Heck,those scums are ACTUALLY asking google.cn to "temporarily suspend the search service of foreign web pages":
http://news.xinhuanet.com/politics/2009-06/19/content_11568367.htm

Great China LAN here we come!:(

who can save us by bombing by the Chinese propaganda, even god damn it!

Hatred aside, Google China needs to learn some PR from Microsoft and other successful foreign businesses in China, this is not a country where good business practices prevail, they need to start "donating", 20 million a year would suffice.

Saw the allegation somewhere that Baidu had been brought up on a similar charge previously, and made a big payment to be immune from future trouble.

You are immune as long as you keep paying, and not as soon as you stop paying.

Rumors say that Baidu paid 40 million and solved its crisis with CCTV.

CCTV programme "Focus Report" quoting "one college student" to denounce Google is in fact more than childish. It is fake and scandalous! This college student, whose real name is Gao Ye, is one of the employees of CCTV! link, link, link

Baidu bashing? I last posted on this subject when I was innocently searching for photos of Hu Jintao grinding soy beans. I think it was earlier this year during Chinese New Year. Among the pictures for "磨豆腐" that I got from Baidu images were plenty of X-rated photos in the last pages of results.
Now it looks like Baidu has cleaned up the tofu mess and the same search performed today only produced 2 results that might get dammed by Green Dam Youth Escort software. Those curious about 磨豆腐 can either peek at the Baidu 图片 (image) links posted below or click on Baidu's "知道" link if seeking "knowledge" of what 磨豆腐 could possibly mean.

Page 1: X-rated anime picture link

Page 13. R rated photoslink

One good thing to know is they don't care about porn at all because I can troll on 4chan all the time, if you keep away from politics you are allowed to jack off at will.

I'm pretty sure Baidu has been slammed much more than google. CCTV aired the pay-for-ad scandal a while back about Baidu's "listed" search, that hurt them pretty bad.

The Chinese "netizens" are already revolting against the Chinese government's proposal to install Green Dam. Over 10,400 comments have been left on one anti-Green Dam website called issw365.org. link On this website the netizens are voicing their frustrations and opinions against Green Dam. However, they are running out of time to stop the government's plan.

check out hecaitou's take on this. link

I agree with what's said above. But I do wonder why google would auto-complete the search for "son" with the incest list? Is this based on popularity? Obviously not based on the number of relevant sites.

green dam is ridiculous.

It's popularity-based, I believe. You see the same behavior to a certain extent on Baidu as well, although it's better filtered. Type 性爱 in to the search box, and there are no suggestions. Type "xing" and it suggests some character combinations. Type "xing'ai" and it suggests the pinyin "xing ai dianying" and "xing ai pian" (both of which mean porn films).

So a search engine has the responsibility not only to screen its results for improper information, but to prevent the user from searching for anything unhealthy in the first place.

@Joel

"So a search engine has the responsibility...to prevent the user from searching for anything unhealthy in the first place."

Correct, Comrade. This standard has been applied to writers since Mao Zedong's talk at the Yenan Forum on Literature and the Arts in 1942, and the media in general since the founding of the PRC in 1949.

The information provider -- be s/he a writer, movie director or a search engine -- will be held responsible for all associations created by that information, and all actions inspired by it.

When google gets negative attention from CCTV, netizens criticize the government and defend google. You don't see this when CCTV do the same to Baidu. This is either google really being a more moral company than baidu, or successful PR on google's part in convincing people that they are the good guys who refuse to collude with the government.

@Bruce

That's a good sarcasm.

When google gets negative attention from CCTV, netizens criticize the government and defend google. You don't see this when CCTV do the same to Baidu. This is either google really being a more moral company than baidu, or successful PR on google's part in convincing people that they are the good guys who refuse to collude with the government.
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Are you really a Baidu employee?? if so, you might want to know that one of you guys called my company yesterday for paid search listing, I gently scorned her without a second thought (sorry if it was you), I made clear that if Badiu aspires to be an international enterprise that can earn us some pride being a Chinese it must not employ this type of business practices.

And your thought on why netizens support Google but not Baidu is intriguing, you see, this phenomenon is definitely NOT a coincidence, BUT WHY?? WHY DO ALL NETIZENS SUPPORT GOOGLE?? Well, it's called PR with the USERS, and that's what every successful firm put on top of their agenda, it isn't a trick or gimmick, it is a SURVIVAL technique, because I learned it in my first lecture of Marketing. While I perfect understand that here in China companies need to donate to the government, you people at Baidu are simply to obsessed with elitism and craps, look, get POPULIST, and EARN US CHINESE SOME PRIDE.

"So a search engine has the responsibility not only to screen its results for improper information, but to prevent the user from searching for anything unhealthy in the first place."
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I strongly believe that search engine is strictly an "information relayer", not an "information alterer" or "information creator".

@Peteryang
That was a joke. I am not a Baidu Employee. Calm down.

Baidu's pervious trouble with the regulatoirs but to a far greater degree, with the general public, was not so much "unhealthy content" (the "general public" wouldn't have cared that much) but fraudulent business model of ranking auction (竞价排名).
While the model itself's nothing new, Baidu surely pushed it too far; so far, in fact, that it's now facing anti-trust class action suits (you know, enabling monopoly by the highest bidders apart from free market mechanisms).

I wish to have Baidu perform "梵欲".

I want to share readers my view:
Is Google a scapegoat of pron?

I'm puzzled, or maybe confused here. Google is in big shit trouble in China because why? A couple of links to dodgy websites, that are proly only harmless fun? And yet China Daily website is now carrying ads for what is widely held to be a dangerous cult from the US! How does this accord with China's laws and regulations? Are we going to see paid for advertorials from .. well let's not name any names eh!?!