Is it nasty of me to hope someone cuts open *their* skulls and does the same?

>>Is it nasty of me to hope someone cuts open *their* skulls and does the same?

Ah, parental logic. The very best kind! Can I play?

If your friends jumped off a bridge would you jump too?!

No, you can't, because you're bigger/smaller/older/younger and your sibling will/won't/can't/should understand!!

我是山东人，不过我觉得这样做真得有点恶心。。。。

je viens du shandong, ca me paraît très méchant de faire ce genre d'expérience.

Coming next X-Mas, Robo-Pigeon!

Squeal with joy and delight as you command your new cyber pet to do things from poop on your neighbor's car to fly into a glass window.

Well there goes great invention number 5....

And just in time for the Two Meetings! Legislating should go particularly smoothly this year.

Not that I don't feel sorry for the pigeons, but is this really that different from what we do when we train dogs to sniff for bombs or perform other police work? Worse yet, like the US Navy using dolphins and seals to sweep for mines (or some similar task). At least these pigeons are not (yet) been used for military purposes.

Shit! Is it also for the sake of the science?

This is the beginning of the microchipping of the human race. they will control us all, it is inevitable. This kinda shit sickens me completely. what good can be achieved by this, really? WTF!!!!

为什么要做这么残忍的事情？最终会不会变在人体试验？

I strongly condemn this.

George, you have a good point. But comparison with other countries doesn't change anything for the pigeons in China. I think that compassionate people everywhere sort of have to operate on the principle that "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Ditto for cruel use of animals in science.
Whether it happens in the United States or China, this abuse of nature is horrific, cruel and pointless. National borders can't define the limits of compassion. I just wish Chinese newspapers, blogs and readers would take my country to task for animal cruelty more often! That would be a wonderful kind of globalization to see.

In any case, I cannot imagine a better photo opportunity for Peta to yet again slam China as a country renowned for public displays of unnecessary cruelty. Is Shandong Tech trying to build better robots or just doing its best to re-inforce the stereotype of China as the Peoples Republic of Cruelty?

The US already leads the world in terms of systematic cruelty to animals for the noble cause of "scientific research.

But it is my sincere wish that China might try to find alternative, humane ways to conduct its research, and take a higher road.

To reply to cat's comment up top, it is indeed "nasty" of you to wish reciprocal treatment on these scientists, and I share your impulse, but I would think it better to save your karmic bank account for better uses.

Fact is, if/when artificial intelligence gives rise to post-human "robots" or machines who may very well enjoy a vast technological advantage over us (i.e., total dominion over us; the power to enslave, torture and destroy us), we as a species we will have no moral grounds on which to beg that they treat us benevolently.

("Gee, you should treat us well because look how nicely we treated our friends in the animal kingdom!")

If anyone reading this feels motivated to do anything about this kind of cruel use of animals, I'd redirect some of your energy to organizations like releasechimps dot org, which is devoted to providing relief to animals subject to exactly this kind of "science."

You people are overreacting. This is something necessary for the advance of science.

Although I know the American did the same thing. But, it is so cruel, poor pigeon, why don't they just invent a robert looks like a pigeon?

Yea this is very disgusting, no matter which country would end up participating in it. It may be "just" a pigeon now, but where could this go? Is no one concerned about more wide-spread reprocussions this might have? Not long ago science said that there is no practical way to program a brain, now suddenly they can give demands directly to response neurons? And of course no one even thinks about what this might mean for free choice. Is nothing sacred, not even a mind??

Science-phobes and PETA members, get over it. Scientists using animals as test subjects on average treat animals much more humanely and with a more thorough understanding of the animals than the general public. PETA members, on the other hand, are poorly informed and act merely upon irrational impulses. They do not have the slightest clue about natural ecosystems and the role animals play in them.

George, what kind of facts do you have to back up your claims? There are incidences of animal cruelty in the general populace, but what evidence do you have to support your statement that these events outweigh the millions of loving pet owners in the US alone? And even if they did, how would one sort of animal cruelty justify another sort? Perhaps you consider compassion towards a living creature in pain to be an irrational impulse. That is your opinion and your prerogative. However, your unsupported statements and fallacies of logic suggest that it is you that ought to be better informed. To those that suggest that this is necessary for the advancement of science, I ask “Why?” History and fiction alike have shown us that the advancement of science for its sake alone is destructive to the human race. If there is no other goal save the advancement of science, it will trample all other principles in that pursuit. This leads people to fear science, when it is only science without morality that should be shunned.

And if this experiment has anything to do with "natural ecosystems and the role animals play in them", it is certainly not immediately apparent.

more effective than flak-guns.

more likely to be used for spying though.

I for one welcome our new Shandong overlords.